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littlekiwi

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Never done them but @MrsPeel challenge has me strongly considering it. So I have all the questions.

Best way to tackle a double page spread? 24x12 document, two 12x12 documents?

What about uploading to gallery?

Lastly how do you prevent stuff being lost in the “gutter” when printing?
 
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Personally (and many don't do it this way), I do mine as 2 12x12 documents. I very rarely have elements/photos that cross the "gutter" so that isn't an issue. I have done some 24x12 in the past and I struggled with getting the background papers lined up right so that's why I do appreciate template designers that do the 12x12's also in their kits for a double page template. IMO splitting a 24x12 is a pain which is another reason why I find doing 2 12x12's much easier. And, to get them printed I need the 12x12.

Don't share in gallery so no opinion on that.
 
I do 12x12 paged and when I set up to print I use the template with a small border. I use blurb and then I don't have to worry about the gutter.
 
I use 2 page layouts fairly often. For printing, I only get lay-flat books, so the center of the layout isn’t a problem. The sites I use will take a 24x12 page. However, you do need to make sure that the short side edges don’t have anything important because they can get cut off.
 
@littlekiwi

Best way to tackle a double page spread? 24x12 document, two 12x12 documents?
I've scrapped both ways. I have a Youtube playlist with 50 double page layouts showing both methods.
Double Page Layouts

What about uploading to gallery?
Sometimes I post one 24x12 and then put the 12x12 images in the description. Most often I post two 12x12 layouts because as you can see from the 24x12, the clarity is missing.

Here's a 24x12 upload with 12x12 images:


Here's two 12x12 uploads:



Lastly how do you prevent stuff being lost in the “gutter” when printing?
It really depends upon whether I'm printing in a photo book or printing single pages, and where I'm printing. Each print shop has their own guidelines and I usually follow those. I sometimes have to end up moving things on my PSD away from the edges (which is why I keep my PSDs) or place with a white border around the edge.
 
I prefer making the 2 pages together in one document so I can arrange everything as a whole. I print via Lightroom and Blurb and can just drag the entire layout into a two page spread. I think Shutterfly can handle two page spreads too.

In the gallery, I just upload the entire two page layout the same as with a single page. It means everything doesn't show in the square thumbnail, but that doesn't matter. In fact, that's always the case for me anyway because I scrap 8.5x11" pages all the time now.

Long ago, I used to make 24x12 two page layouts and cut them apart, but even then I preferred that and it wasn't too hard.
 
michelepixels said:
I prefer making the 2 pages together in one document so I can arrange everything as a whole.
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thats what I've ended up doing, going to have to save it in progress for now as I'm not seeing products in my stash that well.....the ol' case of I should have stuff that works but when looking for it you can't find it....yep thats me right now.
 
Ended up really struggling to get the two layouts lined up on one 24x12 canvas so I could save for web so I uploaded them individually. Not 100% sure I like doing double pages yet.....probably not helped by the fact I had to almost start from scratch when I re-read the instructions for todays challenge (10th)
 
Best way to tackle a double page spread? 24x12 document, two 12x12 documents?
I used to scrap ONLY Double pages, lol! I started with a 24x12 document.

What about uploading to gallery?
I cut them into two 12x12 and saved each side. Then I would also save a web version of the 12x24. See these:



Underneath the single 12x12's, I would include how the whole 12x24 looked. (ETA - I use my Smugnug, and paste the wholle image there, and it is linked to the big image, but only a little one appears)

Lastly how do you prevent stuff being lost in the “gutter” when printing?
I used guides. I tried not to include any important stuff, or words close to there. I would just move them a smidge closer to the center of the page so they wouldn't get lost.
Here is info on Guides at Scrappig with Liz's Blog: http://www.scrappingwithliz.com/2011/05/tips-guides.html
 
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I forgot to address how I avoid losing things in the gutter.

I just pull a guide out of the left ruler (I always have the rulers showing) and drag it to where the gutter will be.

If you browse in my gallery you'll see a lot of two page spreads that look a bit odd because there's an obvious gutter in the center.
 
I make monthly "misc" pages for each month that are double pagers and I always do them as (2) 12x12 files. Just makes it easier for me in the long run, especially since I almost always upload to the gallery and I'd rather they be bigger so you can see what's on them.

For the gutters I just try to remember to look before I save to make sure nothing is close to any edge. I have an action I created for pages that do have stuff near the edge where I resize everything except the background paper down by 97% to help with stuff getting chopped off. I do that more for the outer edge though since I now print layflat book, so my gutters never are a problem.
 
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