August 2023 Book Club - Tomorrow and Tomorrow and Tomorrow

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  1. Karen

    Karen Wiggle it, just a little bit!

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    Yippee! It's time for another batch of books to read together! We have another round of voting completed and we have another batch of great books to read together.

    The book for August is Tomorrow and Tomorrow and Tomorrow by Gabrielle Zevin. Feel free to read our book club books in any order that you choose and when you've finished reading, come back here and tell us what you think. Please label spoilers. We have a new trick for hiding spoilers. Type whatever you want and then highlight the spoiler portion and click the + button above and select Spoiler. If that doesn't work (seems to be funky on Macs) just highlight your text and change the color to white >>>This is a super secret spoiler alert!<<< like I did right there.

    The spoiler button is pretty cool!

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    Just a note, anyone is welcome to join in with our book club reading at any time and join in the discussion! The more the merrier! :agree Happy reading!
     
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  2. tkradtke

    tkradtke Professional Brainstormer

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    Ahhh.... one of my favorite reads of the year so far!
     
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  3. Karen

    Karen Wiggle it, just a little bit!

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    Yay! Glad to hear this! I only have one friend who read it and she vehemently hated it, so I wasn't sure what to think. Lol. I had it on my to read list already when she told me how much she hated it. ha ha!
     
  4. jk703

    jk703 CEO of Anything and Everything, Everywhere

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    A friend said this was great too! I will finish my murder mystery and get started!
     
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  5. tkradtke

    tkradtke Professional Brainstormer

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    I have a computer engineer son and my roommate when I first moved here to Chicago many moons ago was a video game designer for Bally/Midway. So maybe I just had a different connection with it?
     
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  6. janedee

    janedee Digging that ancient history

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    I have a three week waiting time at the library for this one.
     
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  7. Laura ODonnell

    Laura ODonnell Well-Known Member

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    I just finished it. Loved it. I don’t have any interest in video games and it sucked me in and kept my attention.
     
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  8. elseepe

    elseepe I'll follow the sun

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    good to know, because I also don't have any interest in video games.
     
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  9. norton94

    norton94 Thank goodness I'm still a Well-Known Member

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    my 21 yr old daughter loved it (not a gamer either)
     
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  10. plumdumpling

    plumdumpling CT - Krista Sahlin

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    4 stars - I had pretty high expectations for this one since there was so much hype. In the end, I thought it was pretty good and also a bit boring in places. I really enjoyed the comparisons of video games to life and the video game development in general. But there was so much angst, quite a few dysfunctional relationships. Well developed characters, and some interesting sections where Zevin plays with structure.
     
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  11. Laura ODonnell

    Laura ODonnell Well-Known Member

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    I really liked this one. I did the audiobook and when I finished and still had a week for the loan I listened to it again. I wasn't ready to let go.

    So on my second read I paid better attention to what was going on when they were in the video game together. That part on the first read was hard for me to understand what was happening. On the second read it was really touching to see the details of how he made the game for her, and what was happening along the way with the amputation and them getting married and she didn't know who it was.

    It was interesting to think how it must have been during the early days of video games. I got a kick out of the part where Sophie comments that all video games are just men's fetishes. Then her game is Emily Blaster - shooting ink blobs to form Emily Dickenson poetry. Hah!

    The 2 of them both had some shortcomings with social skills and Marx was personality plus and really was an important part of them working together. I read that before this book came out Paramount Plus got the rights. I can't wait to see what they will do with a movie or tv show of this one.
     
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  12. Karen

    Karen Wiggle it, just a little bit!

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    I started this one a few days ago, but I need to pause and read a different book for my IRL book club, then I can get back to this one. It's killing me to not read everyone's comments so far. :giggle
     
  13. jk703

    jk703 CEO of Anything and Everything, Everywhere

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    Ok, after I read my book club IRL book I'll grab this one!
     
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  14. ScrappyHappy82

    ScrappyHappy82 I didn't know pet stores sold husbands!

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    I just finished this one last month! It was really different than my usual listen (audiobook) but I really enjoyed it!
     
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  15. michelepixels

    michelepixels A pun is not fully matured until it is full groan.

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    I read this! I finished it January 4 but apparently did not remember/know it was a TLP book club choice. I can't remember enough detail to talk about it now, but I searched my journal and found I'd written something about it!

    It’s really good. I hate that Marx was killed. I’m ambivalent that Sam and Sadie didn’t end up together, although I think they still could. They’re still only in their late 30’s when the book ends. I was kind of disappointed it ended without us even knowing whether they make another game together. But there are a lot of wonderful things in the book, like how kind and generous Marx is and the sweet parental figures and how Sam made the Friendship game to try to get Sadie’s attention.
     
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  16. amien1

    amien1 I do enjoy a good exclamation point!

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    Love this audiobook. It was very different from some of my normal reads/genre, but I really enjoyed it even though I could care less about gaming.
    It was interesting to learn about what it took to create games 'back in the day!' I'm hoping they eventually ended up together, but I guess that's left for us to decide- sometimes I like when not everything is wrapped up in a shiny perfect bow! ;)
     
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  17. Lynnette

    Lynnette In my life, I've loved them all

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    I really enjoyed this book. Like most of you I'm not a gamer but I liked learning a bit more about the gaming world and what it is like creating games. I found the characters interesting, also a bit infuriating at times!

    I liked how she wrote from Marx perspective as sort of an NPC in the story - he was so essential to the way Sam and Sadie were able to work together but not a creator like they were. I loved the idea of world building as a way to cope with the world they are stuck in, and as a way to better understand the world we are in and possibilities and limitations of it. I hoped Sam and Sadie would be able to find a way to have a closer relationship, but I felt like if it didn't happen in the book it probably never will - they are only able to coexist in the worlds they create, not the real world.
     
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  18. Karen

    Karen Wiggle it, just a little bit!

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    I finished this last week and totally forgot to come here and comment. And I need to go back and ready everyone's spoilers finally! :giggle I enjoyed this book. I'm going copy what I wrote on Goodreads and put it all as a spoiler, just in case...

    This was 3.5 stars for me. I really enjoyed the beginning of the book and the dynamic friendship between Marx, Sam and Sadie. They were so young and dumb early on, but had a great partnership for creating games together and they all had their perfect roles in the company that they built together. I hated the animosity that both Sadie and Sam held between themselves, even if it was usually understandable, but I really wanted them to stop being stupid and just talk to each other and be honest with each other on an adult level. I hate Dov and that he was such a slime and that Sadie fell for him and wasted so much time dating him. I know I was supposed to hate him, so well done there.

    When Marx died I was heart broken for both Sam and Sadie and I hated that they didn't lean on each other for support in their grief. The book definitely took a nose dive through the narrated Oregon Trail knock off game for me. I did finally figure out that it was Sam and Sadie using the game to get through their grief and depression, but those chapters were so clunky for me. Then I was really disappointed that there wasn't more closure and growth between Sadie and Sam at the end. I know it was supposed to be hopeful because she gave him a new game of hers to play, but I really wanted more!
     
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    Karen Wiggle it, just a little bit!

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    I liked what you said in your spoiler... you're probably right too... if they couldn't figure out how to coexist in the book, they probably won't be able to except in the games they create.
     
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    janedee Digging that ancient history

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    I just finished reading this and have to say that although I loved the early part of the book, I was disappointed the ending seemed flat.
    After Marx’s death, I felt the book went downhill. I really didn’t like the Pioneers play through section and skipped over it. It felt as though the author was trying to find a good ending for the story but it just trailed off.
     
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