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Hello my lovelies!!! I'm here covering our Anne of Alamo (actually she is un-coverable, but I will try my best!) whilst she is gone on a biking trip!!!.

I actually been thinking about this very often and was going to come post...but making things short is not one of mt skills, so bear with me, I will try make it as simple as my brain (3 days no sleep) can do!

Technology advances are fast, very fast to anyone - just see the speed of up grading cell phones, h0ow much they want us to have new computers, even Fridges and cookers and washing machines are built to last an average of 7 years...I remember my mum having an American made fridge when we were Little, they had it for almost 40 years!!! Not these days.

My thing is...I was born in the late 50s, so a LOT of what now is an everyday thing, was sci fi to me. Things sci-fi has written as ...sci-fi...fiction...have become an everyday thing.
I see the movies in dystopian futures are coming up a lot more often than I would like it...and I have seen in the news things about machines that rebel...
I read THIS ARTICLE about technological craziness HERE which made me want to share this with you and know what you think......
Have you read about the Echo going crazy on it's owners and refusing to obey after making noises that sounded like an evil laugh?
Then there is the android making..... is a reality already...
Do you think we can face a future in which machines will represent danger to us?
I don;t think it will happen in my life time...but then again....
How scared are you about the technological advances?
 
I've heard about Amazon being subpoenaed in murder investigations to produce recordings on their ECHO and Alexa devices. Apparently they can record conversations unbeknownst to the owner. Sorry... I don't have one, don't intend to get one. I've even gone so far as to tape the camera lens on my laptop.
 
We have two Echo Dots, both of which were gifted to us. I don't even have a Prime membership anymore because I got super annoyed at Amazon, but that's another story...

One Echo Dot we've had since September and the other since December. So far, neither have done anything weird or acted up at all. One my daughter has in her room and she's connected it via smart plugs to her nightlight. When she lays down at night, she says "goodnight alexa" and Alexa turns on her nightlight and tells her a short bedtime story. It's really pretty neat. She likes to ask Alexa silly questions and get Alexa to tell her jokes. We've also connected our Spotify account to both Echo dots so we can play music (since I discontinued our Prime membership, we can't play Amazon music anymore). The other Echo Dot is on our kitchen counter and it mostly gets used to play music while we cook dinner... and my husband and daughter do like to play silly games with it in the evenings sometimes.

All that being said... technology is pretty crazy to me. I definitely have a love-hat relationship with all these crazy new gadgets. On one hand, they do make aspects of our life easier, but on the other I hate how engrossed everyone is in technology versus actual human interaction. I hate that I don't really know if they are listening in and where that information goes.

I have seen this quote (attributed to Albert Einstein, but according to Snopes he did not say it...): "I fear the day that technology will surpass our human interaction. The world will have a generation of idiots." I often wonder if we are there now or on the brink of being there.
 
I don't have any Echoes or any of those things and don't want any. I have black electrical tape over the cameras on our laptops and never keep them open if I'm not using them. They all have "Cortana" on them and you know they're on all the time. I rarely use Siri either. I don't even have it turned on. I don't have my location services on on my iPhone and only turn it on if I'm using Google map to try to find where I'm going. I don't even use Google anymore as my search engines because if you look - they're tracking EVERYTHING you look at!

What, you think I'm paranoid????? :hide:hide
 
This thread reminds me of the short story "There Will Come Soft Rain“, where the house continues to function after some mysterious disaster takes out all the humans.

We don’t have any devices described, unless it is...”heah Dave, would you get me a cup of coffee?!”
 
Have no interest in Alexa or Echo or whatever they are called. Never wanted an iPhone either so no Siri here. Cortana got disabled immediately. However, I do like Google products even though they track you. Heck, no matter what software (especially a browser) you use that has an online presence, you are being tracked. And, with all the FB stuff coming out now, I'm glad that I don't do any of those quizzes and stuff on the FB platform. I also do not let FB interact with many outside websites (think IG, pinterest and others like that). That cuts down on a lot of the tracking also.

I'm just thankful that at least we are not at the "Big Brother" of "1984" by George Orwell type of society. I had to read that book in 9th grade English in 1971. Now that was scary thinking that type of society just might be what we'd be living 13 years later.
 
mcurtt said:
I've heard about Amazon being subpoenaed in murder investigations to produce recordings on their ECHO and Alexa devices. Apparently they can record conversations unbeknownst to the owner. Sorry... I don't have one, don't intend to get one. I've even gone so far as to tape the camera lens on my laptop.
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Oh I don't have one, neither intend to have it.... some of what Desi is saying and some of what Cheryl is saying... I fear more than anything the lack of human interaction, and, even though I couldn't give a monkey if someone is looking now, I am sometimes paranoid.... but not in the sense of government looking, more in the private companies ...I get really worried that I start getting adverts about a food mixer after I spoke to two friends of mine in either email or private messages on Facebook..... wh9ch means nothing is private anymore.....
I have to admit I have thought about taping the camera... but serves them right, if someone is looking, they will have nightmares, I am not using the dentures, my hair is on like 4 tons of white, three of grey and 5 of red LOL and my pajamas are horrible :giggle
my fear is to come a point in which machines start to fill the human work....


GlazeFamily3 said:
We have two Echo Dots, both of which were gifted to us. I don't even have a Prime membership anymore because I got super annoyed at Amazon, but that's another story...

One Echo Dot we've had since September and the other since December. So far, neither have done anything weird or acted up at all. One my daughter has in her room and she's connected it via smart plugs to her nightlight. When she lays down at night, she says "goodnight alexa" and Alexa turns on her nightlight and tells her a short bedtime story. It's really pretty neat. She likes to ask Alexa silly questions and get Alexa to tell her jokes. We've also connected our Spotify account to both Echo dots so we can play music (since I discontinued our Prime membership, we can't play Amazon music anymore). The other Echo Dot is on our kitchen counter and it mostly gets used to play music while we cook dinner... and my husband and daughter do like to play silly games with it in the evenings sometimes.

All that being said... technology is pretty crazy to me. I definitely have a love-hat relationship with all these crazy new gadgets. On one hand, they do make aspects of our life easier, but on the other I hate how engrossed everyone is in technology versus actual human interaction. I hate that I don't really know if they are listening in and where that information goes.

I have seen this quote (attributed to Albert Einstein, but according to Snopes he did not say it...): "I fear the day that technology will surpass our human interaction. The world will have a generation of idiots." I often wonder if we are there now or on the brink of being there.
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I had read it quoted as Einstein too.... but if Snoopes says isn't him, then more than likely Snoppes is right.... I would have called my Dad of this was 2 months ago... he would know :heartlub miss him...he also had these really accurate ideas as to how humanity advances, and as much s the good advances the not so good or even evil, advances proportionally.... I can't remember the exact idea (no sleep - but it will come to my mind tomorrow)
I'm like you, pretty much, I have this love/hate relationship because it makes my life so much easier and we have access to everything.....for me, online shopping for groceries means less pain, less stress, and so many things like Skype, even Facebook which lots of people dislike...I am not active as in sharing details of my life anymore, they are shared in my LOs but I haven't posted as in what goes on in m,y life in almost 2 years..... but Facebook git me close again to my childhood and teens best friend, we are communicated for free with the whole family (which ias huge) and...well, you know how it is, same as you said, like I was saying above....
I remember the day electronic drums were something available to any musician... I was in rage, because is machines taking over the human work.... that and the social interaction, plus the amount of wierdo in the global net.....

One HUGE fear of mine is the easy financial scams with digitald banking and payments, I have refused to have online baking for years..... but you get better deals with online accounts... also hate the fact that everything had t- be done online, and I like actually talking to people...
Oh so many things!!!!!!!

Cherylndesigns said:
I don't have any Echoes or any of those things and don't want any. I have black electrical tape over the cameras on our laptops and never keep them open if I'm not using them. They all have "Cortana" on them and you know they're on all the time. I rarely use Siri either. I don't even have it turned on. I don't have my location services on on my iPhone and only turn it on if I'm using Google map to try to find where I'm going. I don't even use Google anymore as my search engines because if you look - they're tracking EVERYTHING you look at!

What, you think I'm paranoid????? :hide:hide
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:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl

I am very paranoid but with other stuff, for example , one of the things that affect me, and in one way it has to do with technology, is the fact that one cannot see the face or hear the voice online...so sometimes I think this person doesn;t like me, what have I done now, and start obsessing, tell Sarita (my daughter) ask: should I write to this person? and she says you are crazy. ...so I get paranoid that if I open my mouth it will be even worse :rofl:rofl:rofl

I think the one that had to deal with my paranoia the most has to be Krista @norton94 :rofl {{{{love YOU}}}}}
I got better than I was 3 years ago though:giggle

but Cheryl, you can read above...about me not taping the camera :giggle let them suffer if they are watching!!!!:moo
we don;t have echoes or anything like that, as a matter of fact I brought Sarita up (and made a point of) without video games, I wanted to give her an education of as much electronics free as possible.....

My fear is more generic, as I mentioned above, machines taking over human work mostly...and my thought gos like this:
When I was a child and teenager, even in my 20s.... The Jetsons had machines that washed dishes, things that made food without having to cook- now we have all those things that when I was 10 or 12 were out of someone's imagination.... Star Trek had the communicating devices which are mobile ph0nes...it was SCI FI!!! but now isn't anymore..so
what if Ex Machina happens, or I don't know, a very dystopian future like Bradbury imagined? Books being burnt?
 
Iowan said:
This thread reminds me of the short story "There Will Come Soft Rain“, where the house continues to function after some mysterious disaster takes out all the humans.

We don’t have any devices described, unless it is...”heah Dave, would you get me a cup of coffee?!”
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:giggle:giggle:giggle You have a Dave, I have a Sarita!!!!! mind you, that one doesn't obey command in the first 5 goes, and it wil do at 6 if you are lucky, maybe more :rofl:rofl


HavaDrPepper said:
Have no interest in Alexa or Echo or whatever they are called. Never wanted an iPhone either so no Siri here. Cortana got disabled immediately. However, I do like Google products even though they track you. Heck, no matter what software (especially a browser) you use that has an online presence, you are being tracked. And, with all the FB stuff coming out now, I'm glad that I don't do any of those quizzes and stuff on the FB platform. I also do not let FB interact with many outside websites (think IG, pinterest and others like that). That cuts down on a lot of the tracking also.

I'm just thankful that at least we are not at the "Big Brother" of "1984" by George Orwell type of society. I had to read that book in 9th grade English in 1971. Now that was scary thinking that type of society just might be what we'd be living 13 years later.
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yes, yes, we don;t have any devices either, nor want them, my question was at a more general thing of ...what of the future really makes a dystopian future possible? Maybe not Orwell but I have seen many dreadful movies on that tone
as for the tracking,
have you tried Mozilla Firefox?
It has a "private window" option without adds and it doesn;t allow tracking
I am though, in two minds about the advert thing, because one of the most amazing trips we did with my daughter, I got it through a Facebook advert.... and then we have won tickets for musicals (Legally Blonde and the Ballet at The Albert Hall among other things, if I had not clicked in the ad, we would have lost...thing is, the not having a way to select how private or when you want to be..... yup, not good AT ALL!!!!!...

by the way...love your nickname!!!! I LOVE Dr Pepper!!!!!!! @HavaDrPepper
 
@MrsPeel you know I love talking you down every now and again :giggle
:heartlub:heartlub:heartlub

All these things scare me too... especially with the recent news about Facebook and data harvesting for the Russians. I didn't sign up for Facebook for like forever, but then I relented to see my beautiful nieces and nephew on my sister's posts... I rarely post anything. And I too keep the sticker that comes on the laptop over my camera at work LOL... At home I'm on a desktop. My daughter turns her phone over before changing etc. so maybe the next generation is prepared? I had not obsessed about that one before, but she has a good point.
 
I'm not very scared. Here's a different perspective. People have been afraid of new technology at least since writing was the new technology! See attached chart of the history of panicking over technology. :)
BadForYou-techno-panic-timeline.jpg
 
I'm not really scared at all. I covered my laptop camera once a while back and then I got to thinking, if someone did tap in to it and see my no makeup, pre-shower, unbrushed hair, they'd tune out real quick lol Nothing to see there hahaha. We have 2 Echo Dots and if anyone tapped in there, they'd mostly just hear me fussing a DS to quit yelling at his video game. I guess I'm not really sure what anyone would gain by listening to me and DH banter back and forth. Could be briefly entertaining I guess. I'd kinda like to hear mine start laughing haha.

Now, I will say that I am not real comfortable with the self-driving cars. But, maybe they are safer than some of the humans on the road lol.
 
mcurtt said:
Sorry... I don't have one, don't intend to get one. I've even gone so far as to tape the camera lens on my laptop.
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Ditto. My DH laughs at my taped laptop and my Kindle Fire (I have Alexa disabled, btw) but having a hack-able camera always facing me freaks me out. I used to have tape over the front-facing camera on my phone but we recently got new phones and I haven't put it on. The camera lens is on the side, so I tend to cover it with my thumb when I'm holding my phone. But I should cover it. I'm old--too old for many selfies (not because of how I look, but because I just don't think about it lol!)

What scares me is thinking about when my DD will get her first phone (which will probably be this year). Oh, how I wish there were phone options that were camera-free, wifi/data free, app-free, and text-free! You know...a phone that ONLY made phone calls. And I just read about the daughter of Michael Dell (can't remember her first name, sorry--I was too freaked out by the article lol), and all I can think is, If a man who runs a huge electronics company can't keep up with social media and all that can go wrong, then how the heck am I and other regular parents supposed to know what to do? Sorry, this isn't about robots taking over the world, but this is the part of technology that scares me.
 
@norton94 Krista, yeah, I think my parents have never used an ATM too.

I don't have any of those devices like the Echo or Alexa. My husband and I, though we've been using computers before most people were (and were among the earliest couples to meet online, in 1994), we have been slow adopters of most technology. We got our first smartphones in November 2013. And I'm only on my second iPhone now.

@IntenseMagic Oh my gosh! I didn't think about self-driving cars until you mentioned them. Those I AM afraid of. I will not be getting near one of those (I hope) until they are well-established, well-tested, etc. Maybe I just don't understand them yet though. How can they be aware of everything around them?
 
Tree City said:
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What scares me is thinking about when my DD will get her first phone (which will probably be this year). Oh, how I wish there were phone options that were camera-free, wifi/data free, app-free, and text-free! You know...a phone that ONLY made phone calls. . . ..
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Around 2011 I got my daughter a cell phone that was just a phone. She thought it was worthless and never used it. LOL It ended up becoming my phone when my previous one broke.

Now my daughters both have iPhones. I love it because it's so easy to keep in touch with them, tell them where I'm parked when I go pick them up, etc. I have tried imagining what it would have been like being a parent before cell phones and think it must have been so much harder!
 
I don't think I fear a Matrix/Terminator/iRobot type world happening (although who knows right?!). But I do fear the movie Idiocracy is in our future if we don't change things. That one really scares me. That could be just because of the crazy I see on social media though. I hope nothing like that happens but everyday I read some new comment or even news reports and go wow. Is this real?!
 
The whole big brother thing - yeah, I used to think how could they build a database big enough to know all of us and collect all that information about us. Then it hit me, but it was too late for me - Facebook and really any social media site, where we voluntarily share our thoughts and beliefs. All those posts I made, what I liked and didn't like, what I watched, what I commented on, what my friends liked, commented on, etc. Yeah, they "know" me and my beliefs. I would like to believe all that data, if stored somewhere, would not be used against me to harm me or my family, but now I am not so sure. So for me, I make sure that I am comfortable standing by the opinions I express and the posts I make.

BTW - the whole spying thing is "great" in some regards. My kids use our Amazon account so often FB or other sites with ads will show me what they have been searching for on Amazon, even though they are on different devices.

Hubby of my friend has a Tesla. He backed into a small post when he was driving, but the car's cameras didn't see it either and warn him. He uses the self-driving feature on highways.
 
And have your read any of the news reports where they are using cell phone location data? Recently here in NC, they were able to retrieve a list of phones that crossed into a specific section of the city during certain hours of a day, then narrowed down that list to come up with a list suspects in an arson case and then again in a murder case. Seems the FBI used the same type of process to identify the Austin, TX bomber.
 
very interesting thing the way that this went not exactly to what my thought was.....
We had some friend of the family turning up unannounced so my whole afternoon wa`s lost, will have dinnder now and come back tio answer !!! @michelepixels love the tech map thing... my dad had a perfect explanation for that too...be back soon to carry on chatting!!!!
 
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