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lmccandless

lmccandless

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At the risk of being too political/serious in a scrapping forum, I am really curious to hear the opinions of my fellow TLPers on this issue. Digi is such a global community so it makes it even more interesting to hear the various perspectives.

As a former NYer and as someone who was in the city not long after 9/11, I was moved to tears by the news as I reflected on that day. There's some kind of relief/justice/closure in it for me. I am also really humbled by the dedication of our service men and women for the last 10 years.

I saw this quote on Twitter and it sums it up for me
"I've never wished a man dead, but I have read some obituaries with great pleasure." -Mark Twain

Also, was anyone else spooked out by the fact that Adolf Hitler was also confirmed dead on May 1st, 66 years ago!?
 
lmccandless said:
As a former NYer and as someone who was in the city not long after 9/11, I was moved to tears by the news as I reflected on that day. There's some kind of relief/justice/closure in it for me. I am also really humbled by the dedication of our service men and women for the last 10 years.
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My thoughts exactly. A big part of my heart belongs to NYC..I remember seeing the smoke driving home from work that day. I lost a friend and many people I know lost loved ones. I pray that Bin Laden's death brings some peace to all of those who suffered from his reign of terror.
 
I have no problem with this man being killed, and I'm so thankful that none of our military were killed in the attack. However, I am worried that this will spurn additional attacks, either here in the US or against our military in other countries
 
I agree with Julie I think great that they have finally caught him but what are the repercussion of this gonna be and there is always some one else ready to fill his boots so to speak
 
mrs2a50 said:
I have no problem with this man being killed, and I'm so thankful that none of our military were killed in the attack. However, I am worried that this will spurn additional attacks, either here in the US or against our military in other countries
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Yes, this and even more so, Julie's 3rd part about the worry of additional attacks as my husband boards a plane for NYC at this very moment has me a bit freaked out.
 
lmccandless said:
"I've never wished a man dead, but I have read some obituaries with great pleasure." -Mark Twain
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Great Quote!

As a former Marine Mom to 2 sons & one son that was in the Air Guard, I usually stay out of these issues but as some, if not most, are rejoicing...my mind thinks that there could be some serious retaliation and that worries me. My brother is currently in Iraq working on one of the air bases in the fire department so my concern is for him at the moment and all our military/contractors/etc working around the world.

My quote for today is:

"God is great, beer is good, and people are crazy" (Billy Currington song)
 
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I think the repercussions of taking him alive could've been worse. There will always be attacks and those planning the attacks against us. I think they may increase for a short period of time though, but hopefully we'll just be monitoring the chatter a little bit more than usual and catch anything before it happens.

He was a confessed killer. He plotted these attacks and hoped to kill thousands more Americans than he actually did. I have no problem with what went down over there. I'm glad we don't have to worry about having a trial for him.

I'm in awe of the men that trained to go in and get him. They truly are the elite of the elite, and no matter how they feel about killing someone, they have their orders and they obey. Seeing the photos of the president and everyone that was in the room as they were watching the men go in gives me chills. This wasn't playing a war game. This was real life and no decision was made lightly.

I see the whole picture...from President Bush standing there will the bullhorn and saying we are going to catch those that did that to us....to the room with President Obama having to give the order to take him out. It's a feeling of unity for me...a feeling that regardless of party or politics, we are Americans and we stand united!
 
i agree, there is some relief and some sense of justice for the hateful, senseless acts of evil that were done against humanity under this man's reign, as well as the many plots that were planned but not fully executed.

i have a hard time celebrating though, no matter whose death it is. i feel a lot of reserve in my heart to be joyful or feel triumphant over the fall of someone who will inevitably spend eternity suffering unimaginable torture and pain. yes, he made the choices he made, but i would much rather he would have chosen to change in life. what's done is done, and can't be undone. since he chose not to change in life, the world is a better place without him in it.

i'm sure this is not the end of the movement. i hope we remain vigilant and united as people - no matter what country, race, religion - that we can work together to bring this to an end... would be nice if that were the way things played out from here on out.
 
WELL SAID!!! i agree!!! :D
they were always gonna attack us again whether Bin Laden was dead or alive! they werent just going to walk away after we starting taking down thier networks and killing top operatives of their group! they were plotting, scheming, planning! wiating for the moment to attack again! so any furture attacks imo were always there! I am glad hes dead! im sorry but i am!
and i agree with Debra, if he was captured and brought here to America for trial, just think of all the attacks that would be worse if he was over here sitting in a prison, still alive, still funding his network. then think of all his followers out there that would attack to no end to get him released! ill take my chances with attacks on him being dead rather than what we would face if he was alive!
Debra you always knew how i felt about Obama LOL but can i say i was thrilled to see him carry this out!! i was honestly proud LOL shocking eh LOL

we have the best military in the world and id gladly put my life in their hands anyday!

4noisyboys said:
I think the repercussions of taking him alive could've been worse. There will always be attacks and those planning the attacks against us. I think they may increase for a short period of time though, but hopefully we'll just be monitoring the chatter a little bit more than usual and catch anything before it happens.

He was a confessed killer. He plotted these attacks and hoped to kill thousands more Americans than he actually did. I have no problem with what went down over there. I'm glad we don't have to worry about having a trial for him.

I'm in awe of the men that trained to go in and get him. They truly are the elite of the elite, and no matter how they feel about killing someone, they have their orders and they obey. Seeing the photos of the president and everyone that was in the room as they were watching the men go in gives me chills. This wasn't playing a war game. This was real life and no decision was made lightly.

I see the whole picture...from President Bush standing there will the bullhorn and saying we are going to catch those that did that to us....to the room with President Obama having to give the order to take him out. It's a feeling of unity for me...a feeling that regardless of party or politics, we are Americans and we stand united!
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I couldn't agree more Rebecca and Debra.

I do hope that people will be reserved with political posturing and with celebrating. While I feel a certain degree of closure as I look at the big picture of these last 10 years, I know the ideology of the man did not die with him. And because of my personal spiritual beliefs, I find no joy in his death; I believe, in the end, we are talking about a man's descent and his forever separation from a God who loves him and whom he rejected. So while justice may have been done, there was no victory here.

I feel *immense* gratitude for our service members who have sacrificed and suffered and their families who have done the same in these last 10 years (and beyond). I am humbled by their selfless dedication. I feel immense gratitude for the intelligence community who worked tirelessly in this effort. And I am in awe of the flawless execution of the mission. So all my focus lands on them. ♥
 
thank you for sharing, Estir!

I will never forget 9/11
when the plane crashed in a field in Schwenksville, PA,
I shuddered to think that it could have been the field just next to my house, as I'm not that far away...
NYC, the Pentagon, and a field in Pennsylvania, all of the lives lost that day, will forever be imprinted upon me

I salute the service of our military to our Country,
and thank you, President Obama, justice has been done
 
karen perry said:
I agree with Julie I think great that they have finally caught him but what are the repercussion of this gonna be and there is always some one else ready to fill his boots so to speak
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If there's one thing I've learned since 9/11, it's as Jesus says in Matthew 6:27..."Who of you by worrying can add a single hour to his life?". My husband has been deployed 3 times since the attacks on 9/11. He's missed anniversaries, birthdays, every single holiday, and the entire first 15 months of Brady's life. The first deployment was at the very height of the conflict. Everytime, the bad guys were out looking for American blood...and Bin Laden was still alive. I personally am not worried about repercussions or counter attacks. The fact is, there is evil in this world. The fact is, that evil is always looking to bring down good and do harm. The death of Bin Laden may give them something to point a finger at...a rallying cry, but they were out there anyway, plotting their evil attacks.

I'm glad to see that justice was brought for those families who suffered losses on that day. I hope that his death brought closure of some kind.

But, every time I pump my fist in a little victory cry, I am reminded of what a very wise and spiritual woman once told me. "We can hate the man's action, but we must love the man." It is after all what Jesus did for you and for me. A hard pill to swallow, I know. Easier said than done...especially for those who's lives were forever changed by that tradgedy. But there is truth in those words.

In the end we must find forgiveness, if we look to be forgiven ourselves. Though it isn't as hard for me to do as it is for some, watching my husband walk away 3 times, not knowing if I'd see him again, all because of the actions of that madman, made it difficult to forgive. But, I have.

And, I like Sara, find no real joy in it. In fact I feel a little sadness. Bin Laden, was created by the same God as you and I. And now, he'll spend eternity seperated from the one who loved him most.
 
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I am in awe of America's national pride and especially of the way you treat your military. But please remember it is not just Americans there fighting, many allies including Australians have fought and lost lives in Afganistan.


I also have a great quote to share which sums up the whole situation for me:

"I mourn the loss of thousands of precious lives, but I will not rejoice in the death of one, not even an enemy. Returning hate for hate multiplies hate, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness: only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate: only love can do that" -- Martin Luther King, Jr
 
Thank you for the reminder Amanda...this was such a global event... I truly appreciate all the sacrifices made in all nations to help control terroristic activity everywhere... thank you to all....
 
RebeccaH said:
i agree, there is some relief and some sense of justice for the hateful, senseless acts of evil that were done against humanity under this man's reign, as well as the many plots that were planned but not fully executed.

i have a hard time celebrating though, no matter whose death it is. i feel a lot of reserve in my heart to be joyful or feel triumphant over the fall of someone who will inevitably spend eternity suffering unimaginable torture and pain. yes, he made the choices he made, but i would much rather he would have chosen to change in life. what's done is done, and can't be undone. since he chose not to change in life, the world is a better place without him in it.

i'm sure this is not the end of the movement. i hope we remain vigilant and united as people - no matter what country, race, religion - that we can work together to bring this to an end... would be nice if that were the way things played out from here on out.
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This is my thoughts and feelings exactly!!!
 
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